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From:betawho
Date:October 13th, 2014 01:51 am (UTC)

Part 2

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As to your end comments, I completely agree. I've never been so disapproving of the Doctor, or the show, as I have been this season. It's not just a matter of not liking a particular incarnation, it's a matter of actually hating this person. This is not a person I would want to travel the universe with, or be stuck in a box with, or even someone I would trust. And I think they are riffing, entirely too much, on how un-trustworthy this Doctor is.

The whole point of the show is that the Doctor is the one person in it you can trust, and if you can't, especially if you actively dis-trust him, it loses all meaning as Doctor Who. I know they are trying to make 12 different from 11 but I do think they've gone way way to far. It's one thing to make incarnations different. It's another to make the incarnation seem to not even be the Doctor.

Loads of people have been saying they wish he'd come up against the Master, the problem is, as this incarnation stands, there would hardly be any contrast. I'm more willing to believe this is the Valyard than the Doctor I've always known and loved (even in the incarnations that annoyed me.)

But, yeah, this whole series has focused far far far far too much on all the negative qualities of all the characters. The Doctor's a dick. Clara is an abused wife, stuck between a callous man on one side, and a manipulative one on the other. Danny vascillates from being a really nice guy, to being "Run, Clara!"

And this is supposed to be optimistic family entertainment?

I wasn't attracted to Doctor Who inorder to watch the characters be mean and disfunctional and the monsters be boring. (Although, I honestly think, until they get off this kick of thinking that 45 minutes is better for the show, we are't really going to get to see much in the way of interesting "non-killbot" adversaries, there is literally no time to develop them.)

I don't personally think "monster of the week" works very well, especially not week in and week out. It lacks the richness of traveling and meeting different cultures and exploring the cosmos that was always one of the greatest advantages of Doctor Who (even when the effects, budgets, and "stage play" type acting were dating it to death otherwise. It offered more in terms of "story" than just "TV episode."

I do think I like the Doctor better this week, they did at least allow him some softer moments, some concern, some heroism, and some reasons for his dickish behavior.

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From:betawho
Date:October 13th, 2014 01:53 am (UTC)

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Clara, sadly, I think is a lost cause by this point. Which makes me feel sad for Jenna. She's doing a great job, acting her socks off. But they can't seem to actually do anything good with her. She's either a control freak (which she isn't, but which all the other characters emotionally abusively and repeatedly accuse her of) or a victim. (Presumably thinking she HAS to marry Danny and have his kids now, because "time" said it already happened. Personally, I think Danny already has a kid, that's what all his "family problems" are about, when we know he's an orphan. So Clara isn't actually needed for Orson to exist, and the grandparent with the "time travel stories" was actually Danny.)

Although, unfortunately, knowing Moffat's writing tendencies. I think we're probably stuck with the dickish Doctor. Everybody says, "Oh, he'll mellow out by the end of the series and have an epiphany and change, just you wait and see, Moffat "has a plan." Which frankly, I'm not buying, when has Moffat actually had a plan by the end of the story? I sincerely hope I'm wrong. But I wouldn't put money on it.)

And, honestly, where is everyone getting the idea that Capaldi is acting like the Classic Doctors by being this negative callous person? I don't remember even 6 being this bad. It's like they've taken rare and isolated incidents (1's first 2 or 3 stories, Tom's one surprising callous moment in Pyramids of Mars, and 6's badly thought out characterization,) and conflated them into meaning "this is what the Doctor REALLY is." Frankly, I find it rather insulting to the Classic Doctors, who were, largely, charming and whimsically funny fellows, the kind I'd love to travel with. Not this negative, pessimistic, callous, and deliberately MEAN person.

I really don't understand whey they'd ever even write the Doctor this way. Much less deliberately. And repeatedly.

I don't know whether to feel sorry for Capaldi or not. I just hope that this isn't the "real" Doctor he'd always wanted to play. And if it is, I'm sort of sad that his vision of the Doctor was always such a negative one.

Characterization is one thing, but there is also context. Why is this being done in DOCTOR WHO of all places?

Where has the joy and optimism gone?

Anyway, loved your review, love the insisive way to look at things, and your great and hilarious way with words. It's always a delight and a laugh out loud to read your reviews. Love it.


(And I am sorry for the long replies, I really don't mean to come on here and write a treatise. But I'm longwinded, and I love discussing Doctor Who. And you raise so many good points.

I'd say I'll try to keep it shorter in future, but I probably won't.)
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From:gonzo21
Date:October 13th, 2014 05:34 pm (UTC)
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Capaldi is reminding me a bit of Six. When Six arrived my memories of watching the show as a child are that he was just such a monstrously abusive dick that this was the moment when I fell out of love with the show and pretty much stopped watching it.

And... Capaldi's Doctor has now been much more of a dick than Six ever was.

Maybe that's why the engineer turned him down, because it was a recognition that no, the sane response to this Doctor would be to absolutely not get in any blue boxes with him.
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From:ctanworldkiller
Date:October 13th, 2014 10:43 pm (UTC)

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"It lacks the richness of traveling and meeting different cultures and exploring the cosmos that was always one of the greatest advantages of Doctor Who"

-gives you a medal-

This is possibly the thing I love the most about SF in general too. The Davison years did this kind of thing really well inparticular. It has been practically non-existant in the new series.
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