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From:patches365
Date:October 14th, 2014 08:46 pm (UTC)
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It's not so much that the Doctor is mean (I prefer a less-fluffy Doctor), or that he's old (I prefer an older Doctor), it's the uncomfortable unbalance of power between this particular Doctor and companion that sets me off.

One may have been mean, but it never felt like he had Ian and Barbara so thoroughly crushed under his thumb the way Twelve has with Clara. Their relationship is one where Clara is so broken that Twelve can do whatever the hell he wants and knows that he can get away with it. Even when she ranted at him in the previous episode, Twelve's reaction to it wasn't one of "Oh, man, maybe I should rethink things a bit", it was "Eh, she'll be back." She did not have any effect on him whatsoever.

So, I think the meanness of this Doctor wouldn't be nearly so bad if the companion was strong enough to fight back. But as it stands, every episode just feels like he's beating her further and further into the ground, and not only has she decided not to try to pull herself out, she wants to go deeper.
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From:oldhalloween
Date:October 14th, 2014 11:12 pm (UTC)
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So, I think the meanness of this Doctor wouldn't be nearly so bad if the companion was strong enough to fight back.

That is key for me ...that Clara is not Clara this season. The girl who saves the doctor and constantly reminds him to be/do better. Clara, for lack of a better term, went soft. The whole Pink thing doesn't help as it doesn't seem believable. I don't see Clara as abused. She has known him through all his incarnations so she probably knows him better than any companion. She told him he was being a dick. He did soften and try to explain himself in the beach scene. One of the more genuine scenes, for me, this season.
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From:blackdwarv
Date:October 21st, 2014 10:15 pm (UTC)
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Exactly this.

One: I don't like these people, but I did kind of fuck up and kidnap them, so I guess I have to do the decent thing and take them back... I don't have to like it though...
Twelve: Oh? Is little Clara starting to think for herself? Well, we'll have to stop that before she does the smart thing and leaves me...

Curmudgeon is one thing. This is just abusive. Between his constant abuse and the whole thing with potential companions turning up and not going with him, I'm beginning to think the rumors of Clara leaving might be true...
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